The Golden Compass

Monday, December 10, 2007

Wow.
So, many of you know, Malach works for an organization that is based it's funding in part from Catholic Charities. Malach was shocked to find how vehemently, the Catholic Church has come out against Phillip Pullman, and The Golden Compass movie, and his Dark Materials books. There is a very active movement in the Catholic Church (and Christianity for that matter) to ban these books. Pullman, a "devout" atheist (who Malach affectionately calls "Bizarro C.S. Lewis), is very active in his opinions about religion in general, but so are a lot of people.

What surprises Malach . . . the Church itself, while it has made suggestions of "non Catholic" work (Harry Potter and The DaVinci Code come to mind), they have never come right out and banned a book, which they have with these books. The Catholic Schools in the area have sent a memo home stating these books were not allowed in any of the schools, and any teachers found with them would lose their jobs. They haven't openly banned a popular books since the 60's. The Catholic League (a media arm of the Vatican, but they will deny it) has come out against the book as blasphemous and evil.

Malach reprints for you below a interview from Zenit.com another Vatican based Internet media company:

What Every Parent Should Know About "The Golden Compass"

Interview With Pete Vere and Sandra Miesel

INDIANAPOLIS, Indiana, NOV. 14, 2007 (Zenit.org).- The film "The Golden Compass" isn't simply about using fairy-tale magic to tell a good story, it corrupts the imagery of Lewis and Tolkien to undermine children's faith in God and the Church, says Catholic author Pete Vere.In this interview with ZENIT, Vere and Sandra Miesel discuss the movie adaptation of the fantasy novels written by Philip Pullman. The film, staring Nicole Kidman and Daniel Craig, will be released in the United States in early December.

Vere and Miesel are co-authors of the booklet "Pied Piper of Atheism: Philip Pullman and Children's Fantasy," to be published by Ignatius Press next month on the topic of "The Golden Compass."

Q: The first movie of "The Golden Compass" trilogy is being released at Christmas. For those unfamiliar with the series, what kind of books are these and to whom do they appeal?
Vere: To begin, the books are marketed for 9-12 year olds as children's fantasy literature in the tradition of J.R.R. Tolkien, C.S. Lewis, and J.K. Rowling. "If you're a fan of 'Lord of the Rings,' 'Narnia ' or 'Harry Potter,'" the critics tell us, "you'll love Pullman."

Personally, I just can't see a child picking up these books and reading them. I see them more as books that adults give kids to read.

Having said that, "The Golden Compass" (1995) is the first book in Pullman's trilogy. The second book is titled "The Subtle Knife" (1997) and it is followed by "The Amber Spyglass" (2000).

Collectively, the trilogy is known as "His Dark Materials," a phrase taken from John Milton's "Paradise Lost." This is appropriately titled in my opinion, since each book gets progressively darker -- both in the intensity with which Pullman attacks the Catholic Church and the Judeo-Christian concept of God, as well as the stridency with which he promotes atheism.

For example, one of the main supporting characters, Dr. Mary Malone, is a former Catholic nun who abandoned her vocation to pursue sex and science. The reader does not meet her until the second book, by which time the young reader is already engrossed in the story. By the third book, Dr. Malone is engaging in occult practices to lead the two main characters, a 12-year-old boy and girl, to sleep in the same bed and engage in -- at the very least -- heavy kissing. This is the act through which they renew the multiple universes created by Pullman.

Another example is Pullman's portrayal of the Judeo-Christian God. Pullman refers to him as "The Authority," although a number of passages make clear that this is the God of the Bible. The Authority is a liar and a mere angel, and as we discover in the third book, senile as well. He was locked in some sort of jewel and held prisoner by the patriarch Enoch, who is now called Metatron and who rules in the Authority's name. When the children find the jewel and accidentally release the Authority, he falls apart and dies.

Additionally, Pullman uses the imagery of C.S. Lewis' "Narnia" chronicles. "His Dark Materials" opens with the young heroine stuck in a wardrobe belonging to an old academic, conversing with a talking animal, when she discovers multiple worlds. So the young reader is lulled early on with the familiar feel of Lewis.

Nevertheless, Pullman's work isn't simply about using fairy-tale magic to tell a good story. He openly proselytizes for atheism, corrupting the imagery of Lewis and Tolkien to undermine children's faith in God and the Church.

Q: Many Catholics, including William Donohue of the Catholic League, are speaking out against the movie. What should parents know before they let their children watch this film?
Vere: I don't recommend any parent allow their children to view the film. While the movie has reportedly been sanitized of its more anti-Christian and anti-religious elements, it will do nothing but pique children's curiosity about the books. I'm a parent myself. My children would think it hypocritical if I told them it was OK to see the movie, but not to read the books. And they would be right.

It's not OK for children -- impressionable as they are -- to read stories in which the plot revolves around the supreme blasphemy, namely, that God is a liar and a mortal. It is not appropriate for children to read books in which the heroine is the product of adultery and murder; priests act as professional hit men, torturers and authorize occult experimentation on young children; an ex-nun engages in occult practices and promiscuous behavior, and speaks of it openly with a 12-year-old couple; and the angels who rebel against God are good, while those who fight on God's side are evil. This is wrong. And while it's been softened in the movie -- or at least that's what Hollywood is telling us -- it's still there in the books.

Miesel: Furthermore, there's a great deal of cruelty and gore in the books, not just battles but deliberate murder, sadism, mutilation, suicide, euthanasia and even cannibalism. There are also passages of disturbing sensuality and homosexual angels who are "platonic lovers."


I agree with Pete. Avoid both the movie and the books. It would be best if people didn't picket or make a public fuss because that's just free publicity. If the movie fails at the box office, the second and third books won't be filmed.

Q: The author, Philip Pullman, is an outspoken atheist. Does this come across in the books and the movie as a secularist position or more in the form of anti-Catholicism?
Vere: It's not an "either/or" situation. What begins as a rebellion against the Church turns into a rebellion against God. This then leads to the discovery that God -- and Christianity -- are a fraud.

The 12-year-old protagonists -- Lyra and Will -- discover there is no immortal soul, no heaven or hell. All that awaits us in the afterlife is some gloomy Hades-type afterlife where the soul goes to wait until it completely dissolves. Thus Pullman uses anti-Catholicism as the gateway to promoting atheism.

Q: The trilogy is being compared to "Harry Potter" and "The Lord of the Rings." Is there a comparison to be made with either?
Vere: On the surface, yes. You've got witches, heroines, strange creatures, alternate worlds, etc. Although for reasons already stated, the real comparison -- by way of inverted imagery -- is to C.S. Lewis' "Narnia" chronicles. Pullman, who has called "The Lord of the Rings" "infantile," has a particular dislike for Lewis and "Narnia." This is reflected in Pullman taking Lewis' literary devices and inverting them to attack Christianity and promote atheism.

As Pullman said in a 1998 article in The Guardian: "[Lewis] didn't like women in general, or sexuality at all, at least at the stage in his life when he wrote the 'Narnia' books. He was frightened and appalled at the notion of wanting to grow up. Susan, who did want to grow up, and who might have been the most interesting character in the whole cycle if she'd been allowed to, is a Cinderella in a story where the ugly sisters win."

Miesel: That nasty quote is factually wrong on both points. Lewis began corresponding with his future wife in 1950, the year the first "Narnia" book came out, and married her in 1956, the year the last one was published. Susan's problem isn't "growing up," but turning silly and conceited. She doesn't even appear -- much less get sent to hell -- in "The Last Battle."


Vere: Thus what we see here is more contrast and corruption than comparison. Also, the work of Tolkien, Lewis and Rowling is primarily driven by the audience. It is the average reader who purchases these works, reads them, and makes them popular.

Pullman's work, on the other hand, appears to be driven by the critics. The only people I know recommending Pullman's work are English majors and university professors. I don't know a single electrician, hairdresser or accountant who recommends Pullman's work by word of mouth. Thus the books haven't resonated with the average person to the same degree as "Lord of the Rings," "Narnia" and "Harry Potter."

Q: Nicole Kidman, a Catholic who stars in the film, has said she wouldn't have taken the role if she thought the movie was anti-Catholic. What do you make of this response?
Vere: The film has not yet been released, so I cannot comment on it. However, Christ asks very pointedly in the Gospels: Can a good tree bear rotten fruit? The movie is the fruit of the books and Pullman's imagination. These are anti-Christian and atheistic at their core. How does one sanitize this from the movie without completely gutting Pullman from his story?

During an interview with Hollywood screenwriter Barbara Nicolosi a couple of months ago, I asked her whether it was possible to tone down the anti-Christian elements for the movie. Nicolosi is the chair of Act One, a training and mentoring organization for Christians starting out in Hollywood.

She had given the question thought. A few years ago one of her friends -- an evangelical Christian -- had been asked by her agent to pitch on the project, that is, propose to write the screenplay adapting "The Golden Compass" to film.

"We read [the book] and there was just no way we could come in on this," Nicolosi told me. "Pullman's fantasy universe is nihilistic and rooted in chaos. You cannot fix that in a rewrite without changing the story Pullman is trying to tell -- which is atheistic, angry and at times polemical."

But let's suppose it is possible. Let's suppose Kidman is right and that the movie has been sanitized of its anti-Catholicism. The books remain saturated with bitter anti-Christian polemic. So why promote a movie that will only generate interest in the books among impressionable young children?

For the Christian parent, the movie cannot be anything but spiritual poison to their children -- for the movie is the fruit of the book.

Wow. These are very strong words from people representing the Christian view, and you can just read this being repeated across the Internet with Christian sites and bloggers.

Here's what bother Malach. Why is the Church so nervous about a book. Are their followers that brain dead that reading this book will turn them into atheistic zombies? I mean The Chronicles of Narnia did not turn me into a Christian.

By the way, I have not read any of the books (surprisingly they sell the whole set at Wal-Mart), but is it on my list of things to read.

I am Malach, your prophet.

11 comments:

Toyi said...

oh I knew you were going to come up with a post like this eh eh, well despite what the movie might mean, Phillip Pullman himself said he means and is a task he has taken seriously "tryy to erase God from kids minds", because he hates it...of course he is an atheist. (and I understand and accept it)

Now this is the reason I won't do any of his work, now I also don't agree to try to "stop" what I know is comming anyways, I truly believe that God has its Justice... later. So I am not the kind that feels we need to fight it.

Harry Potter and else are not in my home library and will never be, I am not even the best friend of "Chronicles of Narnia", there is something mixed about that one I personally don't admit either.

Using one of Toyi's arguments against her:

"Well if they were good parents . . . ."

Eve said...

I did not see the movie but my two daughters ages 14 and 12 went to see it with my husband. They both thought it was interesting to watch and were not bored. They felt the theme of the movie was freedom of thought verus blindly following the crowd. They both knew about the controversy because one attends a catholic high school and a memo was distributed. They did not come home brain washed and hell bound. I personally dont feel that faith can be truly tested in this arena. If it can be tested then the issue lies with the person who is tested.

FreeOscar said...

You think with all the other problems with the Catholic Church this would be the least of 'em.

Toyi said...

I don't see the argument anywere.

maybe is in your mind.

Toyi said...

That is the "freedom" you speak of is not the freedom I speak of, I chose not to go, so I don't.. I don't feel forced to stay or go your comments don't make me decide what to do, the spirit of God that lives within me tells and I am happy with that.

in you guys mind, following God is slavery, and not following him is freedom, In your head following God is being brainwashed and "livin La vida loca" is freedom, well let me tell you is not; is the oposite...

John 14:27
27Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid.

Mathew 11:28-30
28"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30For my yoke is easy and my burden is light."

^Is this easy, can you believe this? than God is not slavery.

if you can't believe this? then God is slavery and bitternes for your soul.

yes maybe some people is too religios out there, and maybe they can't see themselves as sinners, maybe you don't like to have someone telling you the truth either maybe that is the case.
But saving your own life is personal and God can't be unfair enough to "not tell you" there is a way and you can chose it.

Once again you don't get my point.

My point: Why is Christianity all up in arms about this movie, and banning it? Are they afraid that their followers are so weak, that seeing this movie will immediately turn them into atheists?

Chronicles of Narnia, The Passion of Christ, whatever, did not turn me into a Christian, neither did Seven, or Silence of the Lambs turn me into a mass murderer.

Toyi said...

IDK Malach, I said is not my fight, I do believe that the choice is within you and it might be your case, maybe movies didn't turn people upside down.. maybe it did for others...each person is different.

I know people that when feel small cry a lot and they are fine later, I have seen others that pull a AK-47 and kill as many, I can't answer your question and I doubt you will get 1 single answer on that...

I set the reasons why I don't do the movies and is because the awful intention of the artist "which is very Satanist (not even atheist)" in which case should not have a problem with God if God was never there on his way.
Guess he is a little confused too, trying to remove a Character that doesn't or never existed for him?

i didn't have any particular plans to take Lawyerman's 7 yr old to see this movie, but once i heard how the church hated it, i made it my mission for him to see it.

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You asked, "Why is the Church so nervous about a book?" Yes; that IS the question!

 
 
 
 
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