How Toyi explain the New Order

Monday, July 09, 2007

Hey this is not a statement but is the way I understand this movement.
I am not covering everything, these movement has so many plan developments that takes more than few books to cover it, I will just post some words I have on it by some Wowees requests. Informational material I had used is "En Route to world Occupation", Bible and general Knowledge.


New Order



This religion is based in the “Pantheisms”. Pantheism believes that everything that exists is part of God and God is part of everything. Pantheism believes there is no personal God, but their concept focuses deeply is a way of looking at God as a “Force” or “Energy” turning him into a “god-force” and this force flows through things on earth and all living creatures including humans and because of this energy flow… we are god or at least part of it.
This way of believing “Pantheism” supports world movements of unification because they strongly feel human unification will bring the world to its maximum level of existence.
Pantheism also teaches that we will never die but instead we will reincarnate because we are all in one with nature in a cycle. Is amazing how men fall into this misleading trap. Pantheism is based on 2 of the most big and oldest lies Satan used to make Adam & Eve fall. The serpent told them “If you eat from this tree you:
1) Will not die.
2) Will be like God.
There is no doubt that men have been trying to escape from responsibility & submission from authority since ancient times.
Believing that there is no personal God, takes responsibility away from sins & also takes away responsibility to keep a personal relationship with God, people end up believing more in what they can accomplish on their own than really accepting or admitting God’s help as Their own Creator.
Also “Occultism” comes from Pantheism, well said witches or witchcraft practitioners opposing the popular idea, they don’t believe in Satan or see themselves practicing satanic rituals; they believe all they do is manipulation of natural forces or what we called at the beginning “god-force” (Pantheism).
Pantheism is a religion of Satan, although Satanism has dragged few crowds is still not soooo well seen for the openness of total God opposition idea. Pantheism is designed to drag masses; the foundations of the New Order are “occultists”.
Some of the biggest mistake people make is calling “Occultism or Pantheism” apart from “Mysticism” or see them as different ideologies, but they are the same.
At the beginning people don’t see that they are practicing occultism, later they realize it but they are so involved that “leaving” is not under their consideration because they have developed an altered state of mind after submitting continuously to meditations and hypnosis they practice.
Occultism is seductive and addictive (more addictive than drugs) and is more dangerous after their practitioners are pushed by their own will to do it and get into this altered state of mind. I strongly believe God wanted to protect us against Occultism by setting laws around it, but if we choose to disobey his warnings is possible to break that protection and get into direct contact with dark powers to communicate with demons, these direct contact is possible through meditations that can cause altered state of minds. Some people have reached little, but some others have reached “Significant Experiences” like traveling out of their bodies, or ancestral projections or future events or contact with spiritual forces. Also some people or those who practice these meditations could find not so pleasant experiences. Why not so pleasant? Because they have developed books that give orientation to take some precautions, but the books are not completely certifying or endorsing this will completely “not happen”. These meditation practices can destroy your mind and give Satan an open door to own your body. A person profoundly hypnotized has no ability to think or repel any attack; the Hynotist can do with his/her, as he want with no problems or opposition. Satan is not stupid, he understands this matter perfectly and putting it on simple words people that practice these extensive meditations are putting themselves in great danger and they can be easily handled.
Just pay attention to what an hypnotist does, he can make people do “Whatever” he wants and these effects of Hypnotism prevail, because we have heard before that a person that has been hypnotized in the past takes a click of the hypnotist to fall again after years (that is proven). Oh well this hypnotist was friendly, he had a show about it was fun…let me say is the biggest lie calling it white magic, These practices go against God’s laws because are still part of Occultism. What appears to be good is not so good when Satan use it on his advantage. Nobody should use these meditation practices or use Occultism to achieve a “Positive goal” like New Order is doing to bring “world peace” because God’s laws forbid Occultism. Drugs and Occultism go by hand and these movements were very popular on the 60’s why they go by hand? Because drugs also produce that altered state of mind and an altered mind means easy access to evil forces, means that people expose themselves to be used, possessed and mistreated turning in pure addicts of these altered states of minds to achieve ecstasies or maintain a good level of it in their lives separating themselves from the submission and a loving relationship with their Creator.

37 comments:

So then, why don't you actively name "Pantheism" "Occultism" "Satanism"? Is Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, Judiasm, Ba'Hai, etc Pantheism, Catholicism?

And you want to quote Adam and Eve? Two fictional Characters of the early Bible, why not quote Jesus, Judge not lest Ye bve judges, Love your neighbor as you love yourself.

All religion is designed to "drag masses". Is this philosophy you spout the same "hypnotism" and "addiction" that you rail against?

Toyi said...

Every religion that practice Pantheism falls into what I called "Pantheism" in my post, sorry I believed that was clear like water.

Adam & Eve are not fictional to me. Uhmm Malach, Malach... my love for you is greater then what you think... so you mean Jesus disacredited Judges and authorities of all times with his words? uhmm there is no worst religion than bringing one piece of the bible and making it "an entire truth". That is not how it works.

Yes, that is what I am saying, but I am talking specifically of New Order this time. Why I brought this specific? because I consider it one of the most suden and dangerous, that is it.

Toyi said...
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Toyi said...

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged."

This is the verse so many use to try to shame Christians for discerning poor behavior, ethics, morals, and values: the "judge not lest ye be judged" verse. So many times people, mostly teens & Malach lol Matt 7:1 is entirely incomplete. This verse is not speaking to not judging at all -- it is speaking to not judging unfair or any other cheap and selfish way.

Matt 7:2-5 "For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged" (if we judge with an evil heart or dark intent, His judgment of us will reflect it; if we judge nobly and honestly, His judgment of us will reflect that, too.

I have no dark intent what soever.
I am pretty sure every single person around the world will have the chance to make a choice to follow him, he is not unfair, how people will have the choice? through his word that comes through someone speaking it. God even say it, "The end will not come until the last of his chosen ones is due". The end only will come until the last person on heart have been announced his kingdom and made their choice.

The Angry Piper said...

In a completely unelated aside...

Toyi: you know I love you like Bugs Bunny loves carrots, right? Like the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles love pizza? Like the Angry Veteran loves himself?

When are you gonna give in to fate, baby? We're meant for each other.

Anonymous said...

oooohh piper . .

The Angry Piper said...

I know that's not really you, Toyi.


WHY HAVE YOUR FORSAKEN MEEEEEEE?

Toyi said...

^ Man who was that? she was way ahead lol

YPG said...

Pretty much all religions before chirtianity had some amount of mystisim in it.
Are you calling all you them Satanic?
Religions which make Chistianity seem like an infant.
Are all of them religions of the devil?

I find your views very narrow with a hint of holier-than-thou attitude against all religions which differ with the bible even a bit.
Is there anything in the bible you disagree with?

Tell me, do you think you'll loose out on a bit of God's favour if you work on sunday?

Christianity also has "mysticism" in it:

Miracles
Ressurection
Divine Humanity
Gods that speak to you
Etc.

This could all be considered Magic and or Occult, could it not?

YPG said...

Let me guess... not part of TRUE Christianity?

Toyi said...

Yes ygp, anything that denies God as a Personal God is satanic, and unfortunately dragging lost of people (In my opinion)you don't need to get into no meditation to talk to him. In my opinion the narrow are those who think the only way to achieve things are based in Meditation.

No you won't loose anything if you have the right heart for God. Lots of people don't miss a sunday but their hearts could be very far...

As for Malach, No that is not misticism because God is still seen as a personal God. Anything that comes out of those therms is not right acording to bible & to me.(cheers)

So then, if I see say, Cthulhu as a Personal God, I am not an occultist anymore?

Toyi said...

Let me set something straight for all of your questions everybody.
1st have the right attitude asking if you really want to know or don't ask me.

Now I will do it Jesus way, I am not here to convince you all to think the way I think, my task is just to deliver what I got for you.
Is in your power to take it or not.

I knew I heard this somewhere before, I reread your post and realized you stole this all from Yoda.

YPG said...

Simple question here, name 5 religions which are not satanic.

Malachism is one

Toyi said...

Sorry I am not here to play your game Malach, leave it or take it... Yoda? what the heck?

Toyi said...

for ypg...

about religion concept, uhmmm any religion that is not here on earth to make "God Big" is not in the right path...(Toyi's seal)
but merely my post is about my christian side and how I understand bible and Jesus teachings, so in other words... even Christianity would be out of the path if they are concetrated in other than "Making God big".

If any religion that supposedly follows God but is doing big other people or highlighting them as "Divine figure" or representation of "God" is not Highlighting "God" as unique and solely divine figure so consequently is not in the right path.
Now God set his authorities, but in the same bible say that the bigger is the one who serves more, not the one who talks better, being a God authority is not subject to become a celebrity or about knwoing more about the bible, is about having the right heart for the Lord. This is the reason there is a part in the bible that say (by Jesus come back) "But Jesus we talked about you and also performed miracles in your name" and Jesus will say "Out of my sight, I don't know you".
Because religions could create the nicest enviroment people can easily believe they are having a relationship with God just by going to church on sundays but what about their heart? are they really being God's friends? or just serving God?
There is a difference between serving God and being his friend.
A friend comunicate to each other, they have fun and also cry together, friends also help each others in hard moments and do things for each other any time at no cost (right heart). But a servant in the other hand is possibly on time, possibly do what you tell him because he gets paid, isnot there for overtime or will do extra stuff for you unless you pay more, will probably do little bit less than a friend will do, you don't have the same trust in a servant so... (who knows where the heart of the servant go when you have no money to pay).

So my bottom conclusion will be, religion should not start in a temple and religion should be a "relationship" instead.

I don't know if I covered what you were looking for but this is what I understand.

This religion is based in the “Pantheisms”. Pantheism believes that everything that exists is part of God and God is part of everything. Pantheism believes there is no personal God, but their concept focuses deeply is a way of looking at God as a “Force” or “Energy” turning him into a “god-force” and this force flows through things on earth and all living creatures including humans and because of this energy flow… we are god or at least part of it.
Yoda Taught me this . .

YPG said...

Don't beat around the bush, just give me names!
name 5, that by your view are not Satanist.

Also meditation's aim is not to put you into a diffeernt state of mind.
It is a breathing excercise. In addition it is a time of inrospection and removal or counter of self doubt. It has nothing to do with bringing your mind into a nother plane. Atleast that was the original idea.

Toyi said...

^leave it or take it man, sounds complitely clear to me, I gave you the Biblica key to make a fair judgement, don't be lazy. Oh you fooled me for a second, I really tought you wanted to know something... man sorry is not what you believe, well you can't say now that you haven't been warned... you make the choice to leave it or take it.

Malach so you learned it? looks like you haven't lol

But don't worry I will continue doing posts like this. You will remember me in judgement day eh eh I will make sure.

YPG said...

Ok then atleast answer me this.
If one must have a relationship with god, why cant he have it on his own terms and seek his own path rather than follow a book that has been wrongly interpretted several times and changed over the years? Or listen to and old coot sitting in the vatican?

Toyi said...

Hey if you are all reading check this out...

http://members.aol.com/Heraklit1/basicpri.htm#ritual

oh everything in there sounds pretty cool, Meditation just for relaxation? ygp must not be complitely aware of the deepness or maybe he just don't want to admit it.
Tell you what, I am not a naive in this area, Dad was used to be one of these and also some part of my family, they actually left it after realizing was not right, they had achieved complex things like light healing powers and were used to find lost things for some friends etc etc.
If you have really been part of some movement like this, you will easily make a judgement about ygp coment about relaxing only, you know perfectly what I am talking about. When I say achieve light things, you also know what I am talking about.

Toyi said...

uhmmm ypg I know your arguments are what most of people have out there, uhmmm let me say something very easy and complex at the same time...
To follow God you have to believe first, after you believe you admit your sinful nature and renounce to it, than you baptize... after you baptize "The Holy spirit (part of God)" comes to live inside you and "EVERYING" you read in the bible "The official book for Christians" will be revealed to you the right way if you "let" the Holy Spirit act before your flesh...so see and understand that there is a "relationship" between you and God 1st. Now this is what you want to hear and is happening, most of Christians religions have not done these steps correctly they have been servants instead of God's friends and they have forgoten to develop this personal relationship 1st and forgoten to teach christian followers the right way to start, people follows God with no Spirit guidance because his holy spirit is not exercised todevelop discernment, people end up speaking what the pastor says but there is nothing coming up from the holy spirit, people end up with poor faith or what is called in the bible "Milk drinkers" because they are not complitely capable to digest solid food (God's word wisely speaking).
Now after you do all these 1st steps, and seen the fruits of understanding what is in the bible having your spirit excercised than translations is complitely less important because in your personal relationship you get revealed the why's for everything including God's laws, Bible book was made to be understood after you have built a relationship with God because the spirit pushes you to read and than practice the word. I assure you NOBODY will understand God word w/o having the holy spirit, people can give meanings and whatever but they will not be acurate if their holy spirit is not excercised correctly and this includes "Church leaders".

Toyi said...

So to find if a church really follows God, all you need to do is follow the principal... "See their fruits" if the fruits are correct according to God, then is good, if the fruits are bad than the place is not good.

YPG said...

Once again bible once again rules.

Ok this has nothing to do with the debate but I've always wondered.

Adam and Eve were the first human beings on earth right?
Then what? I mean sure the kept that the populating part for about 900 or so years but then what?

How did the kids continue? They were brothers and sisters afterall.

I like to meditate.

Toyi said...

the bible says that Eve was the Mother of earth.

YPG said...

But didn't they fall to earth from eden after being banished from Eden? And I though God created the earth. I'm a bit confused now. What do you mean by mother of the earth?
Are you equating her to Gaia?

Even so, they were the first human beings right?

The First Human Being predate the events the in Bible, there are Asian, Egyptian, and Persian writings much older than the events in the Bible.

Toyi said...

The Eden was here on earth somewhere in east lands.
Here is what says:

Genesis 2
10 Now a river flowed out of Eden to water the garden; and from there it divided and became four rivers.
1 Pishon
2 Ghion
3 Tigris
4 Euphrates

so If Tirgis and Euphrates are something familiar to you... you might as well make your mind imagining where the Eden might has been located if was showered by these rivers.

Has for the saying Mother of earth I mean this:

Genesis 3
20 Now the man called his wife's name Eve, because she was the mother of all the living.

Toyi said...

Genesis and every book of the bible were given in revelation to men by God.... so is not a matter of what date were they writen (to compite with other religion books)but a matter of "what" was revealed, in this instance what was revealed was how things were made at the begining of times.

Okay, Science has proven that all mitochondrial DNA stems from one woman except for a small tribe in southern Africa who have a hybrid mix, which oddly enough, is closely related to modern day Jews.

Please don't ask for a source on this. It was in Science News, on CNN 4 years ago etc etc.

So... one woman had many sons and daughters. They travelled out of Africa and populated the entire planet.

Maybe her name wasn't Eve, but learn your evolution. Mutations occur in ONE mother and are spread from there on.

So, Toyi wins by TKO with Eve, YPG wins all the other arguments because his beliefs are just as valid as Toyi's.

Except... YPG. Christianity is not an infant religion anymore. Welcome to the 21st century, ya dirt worshiping heathen. (IT'S A JOKE A JOKE A JOKE! Granted, poor taste, but what do you expect?)

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Eve said...

Cool I populated the earth! Just dont hold me responsible for the assholes who dont shut their cell phones off in the movies.

That was YOU????

So dead...

 
 
 
 
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